» News: Sparkman Reports on PCA Logo Progress
General Assembly News: Wayne Sparkman, PCA Historian, began his report today on the development of a PCA logo with an historical overview of the question of creating a logo - a question that has been on the agenda of the PCA for quite a while. Sparkman noted his desire to receive logo suggestions, and announced that there will be a new section on the Historical Center website dedicated to the development of a logo.
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Not that there's anything wrong with 'em, but why do denominations need logos, anyway?
Anne
Another project which is a waste of time. This has been going on for 20+ years. Let it die.
I love that we are Reformed and show that all of life matters. I mean, we go from the FV brew-ha-ha 24 hours ago to a hopefully equally heated discussion on our new logo and its necessity. I love it.
Go Presbyterians!
LOL!!! :-D
Can there be such a thing as denominational logo "regeneration"?
This definitely calls for a study committee.
OK, kidding aside, I think a logo is a fine idea, and I think Schaeffer would have agreed with me.
The designer in me, though, thinks a simple logotype would be the elegant, simple and noncontroversial solution.
The logo for the PCA should be easy to design. There should be a picture of James Henley Thornwell decked in a suit of armor cutting off the head of a dragon with the head of John Calvin. And the Latin motto just below the picture: "Siempre Scriptura Ante Conscientia; Nunquam Scriptura Extra Confessiones." That just about sums up the history and aim of the PCA.
Pastor Trey Austin
Trey:
you amuse me. really - you think Calvin was an FV/NPP type??
seriously - the PCA needs a logo about as much as we need CE&P.
This is really a useless inquiry.
Sola Fide!
Bill Lamkin
Now there is David who hopes the logo controversy, which is confusing our churches, will just go the way of the DoDo Bird, but sorry, David, we are not going to let it go away. We are Confessional and members in good standing, so there is no reason we cannot participate. At least Wayne appears to be objective, having a new section on his web site for input from all participants, in his pursuit. Hopefully his web site is not stacked with the anti-logo crowd designers, who have a history of opposing the logo, and will allow free inquiry into the matter.
Mr. Lamkin,
Asking whether Calvin was FVist is like asking whether i believe Paul of Taursus was a Nicene Trinitarian. It's a bit anachronistic.
My point was, though, that Calvin's high ecclesiology and high sacramentology is now trying to be slain by the low-church, broad evangelical, conversionist neo-Puritans in the PCA. Calvin wasn't a low-church afficionado; he wasn't a person who denied any connection between the sacraments and the application of Christ's salvific benefits; and he certainly wasn't a conversionist, who required some existential spiritual experience in order to be seen as a real Christian. Those are all issues where Thornwell and his successors greatly differed with Calvin, while, ironically enough, claiming to be his heirs.
In all those areas, the FV (the NPP being a different issue entirely) is much closer to Calvin's views than to the Southern Presbyterian views of Thornwell and his ilk. The difficulty is the tenency of many Puritan-style Calvinists in the PCA and other Reformed denominations today to read their own views into Calvin when reading him. That goes for Calvin's view of the love of God for all men and his desire to see all men saved (contra the PRC crowd), it goes for his view of the universal availability and sufficiency of the atonement (contra the High and Hyper Calvinists), and it goes for his views on the Church and sacraments as well (contra all the low views prevalent in the Reformed Churches today).
Sorry, i just realized i didn't sign my post. This is why i don't use blogger. :-|
That's me addressing Mr. Lamkin above after he replied to my "funny" logo suggestion.
Pastor Trey Austin
Editor's note: just choose "other" and you can enter your name and website without showing up as "anonymous" and without having to create a blogger account.
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